Lawn & Garden

That’s okay, the forsythia don’t know the date either :laughing:

In my opinion, the forsythia rule of thumb is bad. By the time they begin to bloom, the temps are already ideal for germination. The fact is,the stuff lasts for 6-8 weeks when liquid is put down and 8 to 12 weeks when granular is put down. The reason we don’t put it down very early is because of runoff when the ground is frozen hard.

Now, I’m not saying I know anyone who does this, but technically you could put down liquid herbicide when overnight temps are reliably above freezing, like 40 degrees. There won’t be the runoff problem.

This is not advice to do that, but an explanation for why we don’t put down product when the ground is frozen.

If you get a pre-emergent like Dimension (Dithiopyr) down while crabgrass seedlings are still immature, it will still work. Not as well as if you got it down before germination (efficacy reduced by about 20%) , but it is the best defense against crabgrass.

If it is way late, you can opt for Tenacity or Drive, both use Mesotrione as the active ingredient and work as a pre AND post emergent. But the post is most effective on broadleaf weeds.

Scorpio64, what about Lesco 19-0-7 Dimension grabgrass preventative?

If you get it down now, it will do what it’s supposed to do. Maybe wait until the end of this week.

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No, I know DDT is an insecticide that was banned in the 1970’s and 2,4-D is a selective herbicide.

FYI - Lowes has a buy one bag of Halts and get a bag of “Weed & Feed” for free right now.

Get the one with Halts down ASAP and put the “weed & feed” in garage until next feeding (6-8 weeks later, I think??).

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I was there picking up weed n feed yesterday
The Scotts was $98 a bag !!!

I bought the bigger bag of the store brand for $70 (and still felt like I’d been raped)

Vigaro is a better value. And, do not skip on the lime if your soil is acidic. Weeds THRIVE in acidic soil, and low pH is like smog to plants, it reduces the plant’s ability to take up nutrients.

What type of PH testing kit is everyone using?

Bought a bag of the Scott’s weed and feed last weekend in Brick, paid $63

Pick up a soil pH test meter at HD, Lowes or most garden centers. Should be under $25. Its a lil two prong gizmo you stick into the ground and it gives an instant reading. They are not precision instruments, but they are good ‘nuff for determining about how much lime to put down. You might find your soil is high pH, t isn’t as common but it happens. Especially around conifers.