I think right now I’m settled on the 407C X3 as my primary choice and the 509T if I can bring myself to liking the look of an enclosed sight on a pistol. I’ve been using a Viper till now, so I’m kind of used to a smaller window.
Also, this will not be a competition gun, so I need to prioritize ruggedness, and the larger the glass the easier it is to break.
Do you want Red or Green dot? I went with the green for mine… but…
Do the “Best price” - say you’re “from reddit gundeals” and you’ll get it down in price. Got my 507 Comp Green for 320 shipped.
I decided on the 509T. Even though I hate the way enclosed optics look on a pistol, after looking at all reviews and opinions, it appears to be the more robust option. We will see what it looks like on my pistol when it comes in.
I had to order the black sight. Unfortunately, the FDE was $50 more
Never understood this. Is it just demand or is FDE a better coating?
It is probably just a mass production thing. The more common choice is more economical to produce at scale.
Henry Ford figured that out when he said you can have any color you like so long as it is black.
It’s the FDE “Premium”. I don’t get it either.
Anyone familiar with the Holosun SCS MOS? I am looking for something that will co-witness with standard-height sights for a G47MOS and this was the main thing I found.
I have a scs and don’t really care for it. It doesn’t have from what I remember, shake awake and has auto brightness that you really can’t adjust. Probably better off looking at the 407,507.
I have it, like it, great for carry, very low height minimizes space, allows co-witness with stock height sights.
Piggy backing on this thread… Seems like gold dots are a thing now or more of a gimmick?
Anyone try them yet? Just curious if any real advantage per them marketing ads. Some say green better for astigmatism now they say gold is the sweet spot who really knows as it comes down to the eye of the beholder…lol
Dunno about what some say, but physics says green is a shorter wavelength than red (hint, gold is more towards red). Red has a longer wavelength that requires more energy to achieve a similar perceptible output. Red is literally on the other end of the spectrum.
Red light has the longest wavelength in the visible spectrum, ranging roughly from 620 to 750 nm. Green light sits near the middle, with shorter wavelengths ranging from 495 to 570 nm.
Because frequency is inversely proportional to wavelength, red light has a lower frequency and carries less energy per photon. Green light possesses a higher frequency and greater energy.
Anyone with astigmatism (raises hand) has seen how a red dot blows out into a fuzzy streaked mess at it’s highest output. Dimming to lower levels can make the reticle seem crisper. Green is not a magic bullet for astigmatism, BUT… It requires less energy to produce the same perceptible level of light. Meaning, you can use a lower setting with green dots to mitigate the effects of astigmatism.
The human eye is not equally sensitive to all colors. Under normal daylight conditions, our eyes peak in sensitivity at around 555 nm, which is squarely in the green spectrum. Because of this, a green laser or light source will often look significantly brighter to the human eye than a red light of the exact same wattage.
That is the science of it, but the other considerations are; who’s using the sight, and the time of day. Green is easier to see in the daytime but a bright green reticle can be too easy to see at night. Meaning, green is more likely to screw up your night vision than red. There is a reason spec ops and astronomers use red tinted lights at night.
Lastly, not everyone sees color the same way. Colorblindness is the most acute example, but everyone’s ability to see one color better than another varies from person to person.
Red is still the best all around color (wavelength) for illuminated reticles. Green is better than red for daytime use and for people with problems seeing red. Red will not blow out your night vision like green can. Amber splits the diff.
Started out with red dots, discovered green and never looked back, use green on my pistols and rifles. Red, like has been said just blows up in my vision, green stays crisp.
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