The courts know exactly what they are doing, even when they rule their ruling is not much different then what the case started out fighting. the longer the lower courts decisions are allowed to stay in place the better the chances of the commies winning. 2A cases are the simplest cases to rule on now that we have Bruin yet they drag them on for years/decades.
Bruen was decided almost exactly 4 years ago, so we’re not at “decades” yet.
were getting close on the magazine limit 2018, why so long?
SCOTUS is waiting for some lower court stuff to fall into place. something to do with waiting for a circuit split in the lower courts instead of at SCOTUS level.
Slightly unrelated, but the 5th Circuit Court ruled that suppressor ARE arms, creating a split between 9th and 5th.
This will undoubtedly go to SCOTUS.
https://x.com/gunpolicy/status/2067680966403838409
Edited: 9th circuit, not 3rd.
THat is exactly what they were waiting for. For reasons unknown to me, it is easier when there is already a split, than for scotus to create a split. Something to do with the volume of paperwork related to relitgating. dunno, somehow circuit splits makes scotus decisions stick better.
I think it’s more basic than that - when you have the 2 of the second-highest courts that each cover a “large” section of the United States ruling differently on the same issue then the highest court needs to step in to set the standard.
SAF Thread on the suppressor decision:
The decision:
Hopefully SCOTUS rules them as ‘arms’.
Looking forward to applying for my first NJ SPP… ![]()
Be careful what you wish for, suppressors are addictive.
I’m up to 4 now…
Explain like I’m 5.. lol.. If this goes to SCOTUS and they also agree that suppressors are arms, does that automatically make them ‘available’ in NJ, as in having to go through something similar to the pistol permit process, COE, etc.?
If they are considered ‘arms’, then they are protected under 2A.
If they are not considered arms, they are not protected and can be banned at will.
It will likely stand several other challenges in non gun friendly states, but it opens the door to suppressors being legal in NJ.
If SCOTUS rules they’re arms, I’d figure at that point NJ could no longer outright ban them. They’d have to change the rules and likely institute something similar to the pistol permit and/or carry permit system. Who knows but any chance they can grab money…
Appreciate the explanation guys! ![]()
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If they are regulated for export as arms, well… scotus doesn’t have much of a choice but to determine they are arms. Congress had to classify them as such to include in export regs.
I can easily see a $1,000 permit to purchase a suppressor fee.
NJ will not change the State statutes without making us spend yet another fortune on yet another court case to force them to do it.

