If I am carrying and driving to a liquor store, which I know you cannot carry, can I leave my pistol in the glove box without magazine and lock the car?
Pretty sure you can carry in a liquor store, as the ban only applies to places that “serve alcohol.”
Still, your question is a good one. I have wondered if it’s OK to store a gun in a locked center console or glove box.
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I was told in my CCW class that the center console is a no, but the glove box is OK. Why? That’s NJ, of course. I asked AI about the liquor store and here is the response: No, you cannot carry a firearm into a liquor store in New Jersey, even if you have a permit to carry a handgun. New Jersey law prohibits carrying firearms in places where alcohol is sold for on-site consumption, including liquor stores, bars, and restaurants. This prohibition applies to all individuals, regardless of whether they have a permit to carry.
According to this, liquor store carry is fine so long as the store doesn’t serve alcohol for on-site consumption.
Glove box storage is discouraged from what I’ve heard, generally in favor of an under-seat lock box.
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Interesting. I see they want to make the laws vague and almost impossible to carry anywhere.
Buy a lock box for your car. They sell ones with cable or other way to attach it to car. You never know when someone might see you pull gun from waistband and stashing it in glove box. Someone can break window and grab pistol from glovebox in seconds. And guns stolen out of cars is one of the largest ways criminals obtain them.
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I got lock boxes for all our vehicles and have them cabled around something that is difficult or impossible to remove like the seat track or through holes in the frame in the trunk. Someone would need tools to remove the seat or something to cut the cable. While not impossible to steal, it makes it much more difficult and buys time.
The cars that I have them under the driver’s seat is under the back of the driver’s seat and I’ll cover that with the floor mat. I found this helps hide and keep it in place. When I first got a safe I had it under the front of the driver’s seat which was convenient for retrieval but it slid out under hard braking a couple times so that was an issue. Traded convenience for practicality in my current choice of storage location. I can still reach back and get the box while seated in the driver’s seat, it’s just not as easy as when it was in the front.
The SUV safe we have in the trunk area. In the 2+ years it’s been in there I have never used this one but we have it there just in case we end up somewhere we need it.
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Concealed is concealed.
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I would never rely on AI for legal advice.
I support and am a member of multiple 2A organizations, including ANJRPC, as a member, I can get free legal advice from a lawyer for questions like this.
https://www.anjrpc.org/page/Member_benefits
$40 a year or $100 for three.
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US Law Shield also has lawyers available to speak with.
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Yes, I have them as well. They cost much more also.
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And don’t even get me started on the dangerous and unnecessary requirement to remove a gun from its holster and unload it before storing it in a car. In Florida, I simply remove my holster with the gun still in it and lock it in my car.
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I absolutely agree that is an unnecessary burden put upon CCW holders, but anyone who cannot safely unholser and unload a handgun should not be carrying one.
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There is a difference between ‘can do something safely’ and ‘can do something safely every single time no matter how many times’
We are all fallible and there is a risk, no matter how highly skilled you are, that something will go wrong. Accidents are a fact of life. They should be rare, but they are possible and do happen.
With risk analysis we need to look at likelihood and consequence to measure the risk. High likelihood and low consequence does not require the same diligence as low likelihood and high consequence.
There is good reason to avoid administratively handling a firearm unnecessarily due to the high consequence, regardless of how unlikely an accident might be.
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