I won a set of LAPG ones - they’re not bad. I have ‘em in a PC for the Wifey and in my PC I have Hesco 4400’s.
I do believe the Agilite plates are made by Hesco. I could be wrong though. I believe it’s not NIJ certified because the level 3ST designation is not standard.
I did find a set of Highcom 4SAS7 plates for $519.99 in Large SAPI on the apex armor site.
But as for carrier, at this point the Agilite k-zero SF is the front runner.
That is, if I can convince my conscience that a PC is necessary
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This is my pc now I had a Shellback shield tactical pc but it was a waste just sitting in my closet so I got a LA police gear minimalist pc it holds 10x12 plates
For $50 that’s not bad. LAPG JTE Lightweight Low-Profile Laser-Cut MOLLE Plate Carrier - PC-JTE
I have a LAPG Atlas PC - won it at SHOT Show with a set of LAPG Level IV plates and a bunch of other accessories.
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Will it accept a Large SAPI Plate? I’m 6’2, 230lbs, a 10x12 plate is small for me, according to all the sizing charts at least.
10x12 inch is the max for the model I have
Looks like it will only accept 10x12. For Large SAPI plates, you’ll need to find a larger sized PC. Quick glance at LAPG shows the Condor PC which has a large size that will fit… Not sure if I like the design though - it’s full cummerbund size etc.
A vest is something I’ve gone back and forth with. Seeing different operators wearing them, and seeing what areas are protected, and what areas aren’t, makes me wonder how much total benefit there is.
A 10 x 12 plate doesn’t cover a whole lot. Yeah, it covers the major organs in the middle, but exposes a bunch above and below. And, you still have the big gaps on each side, that aren’t protected.
So yeah, a 10 x 12 plate will protect a center mass shot, but if you’re moving, turning or changing position, you leave a lot of unprotected areas… and that’s even before considering your head, which is fully exposed… So, the jury is still out for me.
I did some more research and watched a ton of youtube videos, and I started to think that since we will be in the suburbs of NJ and not in the city, maybe it just makes more sense to get soft IIIA backpack inserts for myself and my family. And if I really need load carrying capability just get a chest rig. Which will also allow me to easily carry a backpack.
Or am I over thinking this? I am naturally very paranoid.
I also did some nosing around after reading this thread, and noticed the soft armor, IIIA rated gear. And being rated to stop most handgun rounds, wondering if that would be enough for rural use? It comes in a few different configurations too. Regular type ballistic vests, a zip up everyday vest, and the inserts.
I also saw that there was a version with wrap around side panels, that close up the gap between the front and back.
With the standard zip up vest, you could throw the chest rig right on top… Might be a consideration.
I’m going to give you my personal advice , Stop overthinking everything if you’re not going to put yourself in harm’s way you don’t need it. This is JMHO I bought it just because I could but in reality I didn’t need it.
to be honest, if you’ve got money to spend on it….it’s about what you feel comfortable with, never just about need. i have a 3a concealable vest, and i have 2 carriers with level4 hard plates. one i keep in the truck, one i keep at home. i’ve never needed them, and pray to GOD that i never do….but you know the saying….better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
If the shit truly does hit the fan, you might only regret that decision for a very short time. 
OK, so I decided to pull the trigger and ordered a PC. Now, knowing that the plates I plan on buying will weight 9.3lbs each, should I practice using the actual plates or should I get these instead to practice in?
WTF Don’t waste your money on that shit, if you made up your mind just get plates.
You usually can get a better price buying plates and the carrier from the same seller.
I hope your not buying steel plates
The only plates that come as a set with the carrier I ordered are 10x12, I need Large SAPI. Anyway, the plates i’m looking at are cheaper on their own then the ones that were availble as a bundle with the carrier.
But I get your point about the rogue weights being a waste of money. I was just thinking of not ruining the expensive armor plates by constantly training in them and sweating.
I think it has more to do with; if you won’t be wearing the carrier regularly, it will seem heavy, burdensome when the shtf, unless you are used to the weight. If you already plan on wearing the plates on a regular basis, no need for training vest.
18.6 pounds. That’s a lot of weight.
Unfortunately, to get the weight down the price goes up.
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I lost over 30 lbs in the last 6 months. Hopefully my body still remembers all that weight 