Did she say that she thought the decision should have been stayed, or did she say that the 3rd circuit should have held off on ruling on the matter until SCOTUS decides on Viramontes? Because those are two different things. Also, I’m starting to think that our best hope is that SCOTUS simply denies cert. The only reason they took the other two cases was because they thought those courts had decided incorrectly. SCOTUS undoubtedly agrees with the 3rd circuits opinion so why grant cert? Unless they just decide they want to get the magazine part over with as well.
Not necessarily. An emergency stay can happen pretty quickly.
I just read the actual text. There is no actual mention of a stay, just holding off until SCOTUS rules.
This is what I am concerned about. The two cases before SCOTUS don’t deal with magazines and Mark Smith has been adamant that we don’t want this issue before SCOTUS right now.
Why does that worry you? In what world does SCOTUS decide that AR15’s are good to go but magazines AREN’T arms? If they aren’t arms then why stop at 10? 5 round magazines or single shot are perfectly fine as limitations then. Either ANY limitation is fine, or none of them are. I can’t see SCOTUS deciding that it’s the former.
I believe Smith thought it would be a bridge too far to do both at the same time, particularly with the “less conservative” conservative justices (ACB for one).
I mean, I get that, but at the same time deciding that magazines aren’t arms opens up the door to even more severe limitations.
If the SCOTUS really wants to answer the magazine question, they can take the California Duncan case instead of ANJRPC.
They held it over from last term. So they may still grant cert on it but this is an opportunity for them to just lump the two together if they want to. But who knows if they do or not.
You usually are a bit more clear thinking than that.
There’s really only three outcomes to the case for us.
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You win.
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You win but the decision includes a stay.
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you lose.
We got #1. There is no more decisive of a win. There is no secret gotcha plan by the Judge who authored the majority ruling. They gave us the most decisive win you can get. But the legal system is procedural and they will go through the procedural motions, even if it sucks for the winners.
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Once again NJ is using our tax dollars in an effort to deny our rights.
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NJ governors are among the worst of the worst. Jim Florio, Jim McGreevy, Jon Corzine, Phil Murphy and now Mikie!!
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You forgot RINO Christie.
Don’t forget about Christie Whitman.
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one of NJs arguments is that if a stay is not issued now and the SC decides that NJs law was ok then NJ will have to go back and start confiscating the guns and mags, our argument should be how many large cap mags did they round up since the law was signed in 2018, or how many listed guns were confiscated since the AWB was signed?
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The one who decided that the State of NJ would do the NICS checks and charge a fee for it. She could have let the dealers use the federal NICS system directly which is free, usually instant, open 17 hours a day 7 days a week and only closed two days a year - the E-NICS system is open 24/7/365
She’s also the one that promised to roll back the Florio AWB.
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if the CMP starts selling M14’s and the mandate is not issued then irreparable harm is going to be done to many americans living in NJ who wish to own a piece of history. add that to our motion too.
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NJ.gov couldn’t care less about the 2A wants, needs or rights of its subjects.
“Pay your taxes, follow the rules and shut up” is the state’s official motto now.
The soap box has not worked.
The ballot box has been stuffed and used against the will of the people.
We are fast approaching the 3rd box, the cartridge box.
Remember, you can vote your way into socialism, but you’re going to have to shoot your way out of it.
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